When people complain about Hyouka and how it’s a poor mystery anime, I think people need to step back and actually ask themselves one question: How many mystery anime have we seen that are actually good? Off the top of my head, Un-Go is great, but not because of the mysteries. I’m currently working through Mouryou no Hako and it’s a good mystery series (although it has some other problems). Higurashi…um…not really. Other than that, they’ve all been consistently terrible, from Gosick to Dusk Maiden of Amnesia to some Shonen Jump thing I can’t be arsed to remember the name of. And then Hyouka came along and suddenly everyone is thinking it’s the worst mystery series around. Um…how?
While there are definitely many different rules a mystery story has to follow, there are two very important ones to keep in mind:
1) Be brain teasers that the audience could solve based on what’s shown to them before the reveal, but don’t make the answer too obvious.
2) Have an undercurrent of tension or stakes within the mysteries themselves.
Hyouka definitely gets the first one right. In fact, it’s the only mystery anime I’ve seen that gets every single rule down when it comes to solving the mysteries themselves, except for the good episodes of Detective Conan. Everything is always laid out logically so that the audience can figure out what’s going on whilst following the protagonist’s thought process. People actually do research in this series and no solution is quick and easy. Whilst it’s true that it’s always up to the main protagonist to solve the mystery in the end, the others do contribute and allow progression to the detective’s revelation. And when the mystery is solved, it’s the kind of solution where you think back and go, “yeah the clues were right there in front of me”. I think only two mysteries were stupidly obvious, and that was the swimsuit episode and the Valentines’ Day one (although in the latter’s case, the mystery wasn’t supposed to be the focus). Everything else though? I figured some of them out, but it required a lot of thinking.
Also, the dialogue is smart and witty and the animation set pieces used in order to add life to the exposition are beautifully integrated so that you don’t fall asleep during the massive amounts of words being spoken in order to discover what’s going on. It’s basically Bakemonogatari if actual animation was used and the dialogue actually had a point. There are a few strange things you have to buy in order for the mysteries to work, but Haruhi got away with far worse, so I don’t see the problem. This makes it so that not only is the mystery solving logical and realistic, it’s actually interesting.
Honestly speaking, can you think of any mystery anime that does this? I sure can’t, because like I said, even the mystery anime I do like don’t really focus on the mysteries so much. They prefer to use it as a backdrop for other things like marriage (looking at you, SAO) or whatever the fuck Gosick used with the actual mysteries themselves are of the simple “come and go”. Scooby-Doo had a better focus on its mysteries than most of you guys. Pick up the slack!
The second point is where a lot of people seem to rebel against the show. Instead of murders or kidnappings or the like, the mysteries revolve around finding a book or deciphering a message from years ago that is really only personal to one character to figuring out why one of the characters became angry, which people seem to regard as being stupid. I’m really hoping these are the same people who don’t like Shaft stuff aside from Madoka and Arakawa, because I’ve never seen those series get bitched on for being utterly pointless (although Salami-san has been getting flak and I never hear anyone talk about Soredemo). But nevertheless, a bunch of people complained about how KyoAni threw so much money at something so bland to the point that is was basically Sacred Seven all over again. Or to summarize it in non-pop culture terms, they didn’t like the mysteries because they saw no reason to care about them.
I’m not one to say that people don’t get it, so I won’t. Instead, I’m going to say they’re flat-out wrong. Hyouka actually does have stakes and a hook when it comes to its mysteries. It’s just very subtle about it, which is probably a surprise considering KyoAni isn’t exactly known for subtlety, especially when it handles the particular subject matter its stakes revolve around. However, once I discovered what that hook was, everything made sense and I was suddenly fully involved with the series to the point it surpassed nearly every anime of 2012.
I’m talking about romance of course. Simply put, Hyouka is the greatest romance anime to ever come out of KyoAni.
Every single mystery has had one goal in mind: to break Houtarou from his lonely ways and fall in love with the girl who acts as the catalyst for this, Chitanda Eru. Mayaka and Satoshi also get a few episodes to themselves, but every single mystery from what I can remember has always had two goals in mind: 1) Houtarou making Chitanda happy 2) Houtarou realizing his potential to the point that he gets out of his lazy shell. Interlinked between those two goals is the growing attraction our young boy has towards the moeblob that nobody can say no to, which becomes clearer and clearer with each mystery solved. Okay, it’s a bit of a one-sided relationship in that regard (especially when compared to the more interesting couple of the series), but I’ve seen worse. Granted, I’ve seen better to, but shut up. I’m trying to make a point.
Basically, everything Hyouka has done regarding its seemingly pointless mysteries and such is to build a foundation for a romance. And considering we have a whole genre of anime dedicated to romance, I fail to see how romance is not a suitable stake to ground your mysteries on. Do we not want to see the male getting together with the female every time we watch Eureka Seven? Do we not want the main character in True Tears to get together with one girl whilst crying in rage that he went with another? Did we not want to kill the fans after they decided who would be the chosen girl of Ichigo 100%? And do I even need to explain the Makoto Shinkai movies? What makes Hyouka’s romance so different that it’s not a suitable base for everything that goes on? Please, I’m dying to know.
Now yes, the problem with having such character-dependent stakes is that you have to actually care about the characters in order to get into the mystery and consequently the show. I don’t see why you shouldn’t care about them though. Chitanda aside, all of the characters are very likable fun people who have personalities and depth to them. I particularly loved the two male characters because they seemed like Tomoya Okazaki and Youhei Sunohara from Clannad with their flaws toned down and their strengths emphasized (this is partly due to the fact that they share the same VAs). Mayaka is one of the best portrayals of a teenage girl I’ve ever seen in anime. And the rest of the cast is awesome too. Whoever says KyoAni only specialize in moe is wrong here, because the only real moeblob in this show is Chitanda (okay she’s the main female and has a lot of screen time, but still…). The other females? The males themselves? Nope, not really.
In the end, Hyouka fulfills practically all of the requirements needed to be a successful mystery series. In fact, it’s clear from watching this anime that the people behind this anime love mysteries, hence the multiple tributes that are weaved in with more subtlety than the literary fiction Psycho-Pass keeps namedropping. So why do people say it’s a terrible one, as well as a terrible series in general? It’s not like its Jormungand, where the people behind it clearly hated the action genre. It’s a love letter to mysteries and, as I’ve stated many times, the best thing KyoAni has ever made as well as the best non-Maison Ikkoku romance series ever made. Not that Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya series that has not aged well at all.
Yeah, where’s my Hyouka sequel, KyoAni? Preferably in movie form, considering you only have one volume left and fillers are the cancer that kills anime sequels.
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Stingers
- It also helps that when it comes to the issue of talent, Hyouka surpasses Sakurasou in every way. Seriously, not only does that anime deal with its issues with the subtlety of an elephant doing the monkey, but did it get worse in the second half?
- You have no idea how happy I was when I was informed that the anime Japan wanted to see a sequel to the most was Hyouka.
- Please ignore that stupid Ani-Elitist review I did of Hyouka. My writing ideas were shit back then.
- I definitely advise people when they revisit the series to please see it as a romance. It makes Hyouka much more interesting. Trust me.





Who the fuck cares about this series ha ha get the hell out of here with this shit.
Considering it’s one of the most popular 2012 non-SAO, non-GC anime, I’m guessing a lot of people.
Fullmetal Alchemist is a beautiful mystery series one that stops this series with ease. The title of this article is inaccurate and misleading.
FMA is less of a mystery series than Higurashi, which I don’t really consider to be much of a mystery.
Scooby-Doo and anime should never be mentioned in the same breath let alone the in the same sentence friend. I’ve never seen this series the lack of a dub kinda makes me not want to check it out but maybe one of these days I’ll leap into it.
I agree, the mysteries in Hyouka are pretty awesome. they’re nicely paced and it was a different kind of mystery brilliantly executed by KyoAni. the biggest thing I learned while blogging is that people like to b*tch and moan all the time. and i’ll admit, it’s pretty fun. XD
i think the most complicated yet intelligently made mystery in Hyouka was the script writing episode where the gang was tasked to create an ending. it borrows influences from mysteries novels and introduces various rules and laws on how to do a proper mystery. not a lot of people will give credit to Hyouka’s complex yet simple designs.
as for a good mystery anime, Blood C and Fujiko comes to mind but yeah, they used the mystery as a backdrop as well. hhhmm…i think the early Detective Conans are your best bet of a good mystery anime.
Mouryo no Hako is pretty awesome. it lags a bit in the middle but the impact of the closing moments was chilling. also, headless chicks are awesome.
Dude, the beginning of Mouryou no Hako is lagging for me, mostly because the dialogue is pretty stilted and unnatural. If the middle is going to lag too, I’m not going to be able to dig it.
ahaha. it is a tough show to watch, i won’t deny that.
If there was anything I think Hyouka lacked, it was a few more episodes not related to a big overarching mystery. Don’t get me wrong, the characters develop throughout the whole series, but it’s not until the final batch of episodes we really delve into them (see the three final episodes in particular). These still have mysteries, but they are toned down a lot. Instead, we have the character in focus.
Just seeing the character have a typical “vacation” episode could be interesting thanks to the great characterization. (I don’t think you’ll agree with this, heh)
Chitanda suffered a bit from this, seeing as she was far from as developed as the rest. Yes, there were subtle hints here and there (Hyouka is way too subtle), but it’s the final episode that truly reveals just who she is. I wish for a second season or a movie…
(you seem to have lovely haters)
They give me life.
I haven’t seen Hyouka yet, but this post makes me really really want to. Nice job.
Japanese wants a sequel of Hyouka ? My day is made !
I have nothing more to had. I love this serie and you explained my reasons better than I would be able to do.
So, thank you for that.
Yeah they do. #1 on the polls actually: http://animeaudiolog.wordpress.com/2013/02/16/anime-talk-episode-37/#more-16412
But yes, I’m a big Hyouka fan, almost to a fault. It’s the Daria-like anime I wanted to see anime make. Or at least the closest I’ve seen anime get to it.
Hyouka was one of my biggest shock of the last year.
I didn’t think it would be that good, honnestly.
I started watching your blog because you’re a Hyouka fan, after all…
Everything you said about Hyouka I agree with. It is definitely best watched as a romance – only then it comes together really well.
You mentioned that it explores the theme of talent better than Sakurasou. I never thought that Hyouka’s main point was ever really talent – that was really just in one arc and it’s not an idea explored all that consistently. Sakurasou is entirely about artistic talent. I never saw a reason to compare the two of them; the approaches are so different. Points really have to go to Hyouka’s subtlety, though. It’s my second favourite anime for a reason!
The movie arc was also about talent, specifically Houtarou’s. The fact that you haven’t realized that shows how well that arc implemented it, even if the actual writing was kind of wonky.
Sakurasou is focused more on talent than Hyouka, true. Thing is, there’s a difference between making it your main theme and blatantly spelling out the theme over and over again.
The movie arc? I didn’t feel it was so much about Houtarou’s talent (there was never any denying he had talent) but more about his lack of human perspective. That’s a common theme throughout all the major mysteries – the motive is always the one thing he gets wrong. And in that particular case, he really stuffed up because he didn’t have the others to offer their perspective on that.
I love Hyouka unreservedly and believe it to be not just a memorable anime, but a true work of art. It goes without saying that I think it’s criminally underrated in much of the anime-watching community.
I have a theory, maybe crazy, as to why it’s not properly appreciated and you hint at it in your post: subtlety. Hyouka never hits you over the head with anything. It’s developed slowly, deliberately, and with an incredibly deft and light touch.
Why would that be a problem?
Well, it’s because I think subtlety is not a reason people watch anime. Like American blockbusters, people watch anime for broad comedy, big fights, explosions, and over-the-top action. I love that the medium is big enough to support works like Hyouka, but I just don’t think they’re sufficiently “mainstream,” if you know what I mean.
Heck, I recently finished Michiko to Hatchin, a 2008 series I’d never heard of until seeing a recent blog post about it. While not perfect, let me say that it’s absolutely a near-masterpiece, a crazy witch’s brew mixing a lot of Cowboy Bebop with a pinch of City of God and a dollop of Thelma and Louise. Unlike Hyouka, it has plenty of gunplay and excitement, and yet, you rarely hear anything about it.
It too, I think, falls into the trap of not really fitting into any particular anime sweet spot. Sure it has great fights and motorcycles, but they’re all with women winding up on top, and except for one gay/cross-dressing man, all of the men in it are scoundrels!
Not that I think anime fans are misogynistic, because I don’t. I just think that Michiko to Hatchin doesn’t scratch any of the itches of the average anime fan, so it has been unjustly ignored…
Anyway, thanks for writing so eloquently about Hyouka. I’ll bet you’ve gotten more than a few people to watch the show, and for that alone you deserve expedited sainthood!
It has subtlety. It has actual depth.
It has characters that are mostly believable and likeable.
A lot of romance series are an excuse for Fan Service, Wish Fulfillment and a unhealthy dose of angst. Apparently, lots of people prefers that, but it may be one of the rare romancestory I actually enjoyed and believed.
Also, lot of Slice of Life Anime are an excuse to put as much as moe as possble. Surprisingly for Kyo Ani , they actually developped characters ‘except maybe Chitanda eru), and made us really care for them.
It’s without a doubt Kyo Ani’s best show.
They used all their knowledge and means to create their masterpiece. Visually stunning, but with actual meaning and depth added.
Definitely agree on it being KyoAni’s best. I don’t give a damn about more Lucky Star or more Haruhi or more Clannad or whatever. Not that I think they’re bad, but they’re done as far as I’m concerned. Whereas, I’m always up for more Hyouka.
“I definitely advise people when they revisit the series to please see it as a romance. It makes Hyouka much more interesting. Trust me.”
Couldn’t agree more! I found the problem with most people is they came in expecting a very “standard” mystery show, when the main focus was on character interaction and development *through* such mysteries.
You do know that Space Brothers is getting a dub and will be released very soon.
So…I guess Monster doesn’t count then?
That’s more of a thriller than a proper mystery series.